the pentacon
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5296595694237574426#
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread440862/pg1
There Was No Missile At the Pentagon – But the Plane Did Not Hit
www.ThePentaCon.com
February 26, 2009Citizen Investigation Team (CIT) has made it our mission to provide independent verifiable evidence revealing what truly happened at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001.
As it turns out we have been extremely successful in obtaining quite a large body of evidence that fatally contradicts the official story specifically proving how the attack jet that flew tree-top level over Arlington timed perfectly with the explosion did not hit the building as reported. Naturally such a scenario proves a complex conspiracy on 9/11 every bit as much as controlled demolition of the World Trade Center.
An Afternoon With Eustace Mullins
Eustace Mullins is heavyweight.
An Afternoon With Eustace Mullins (Rense.com)
By James Dyer c. 2003 All Rights Reserved, May not be reproduced in any media (*cough*)
7-15-3
This author’s world, like yours, changed forever on that September morning in 2001. I knew immediately that we were being lied to, but like all members of my generation, I had very little real information upon which to draw. The vapid explanations of the government, relayed through an owned media, were the incantations of a defrocked priesthood in my eyes and those of my peers.
So we all went looking for our own sources and making our own outlets. The site upon which you read this is just one of thousands. In my search for the reasons why two skyscrapers came down on a Tuesday morning, why we witnessed the suspension of the Fourth and Sixth Amendments via the Patriot Act and a why a seemingly Zionist- heavy foreign policy had America tied-up like a junkyard dog, I stumbled upon Eustace Mullins in my own backyard while researching the Federal Reserve.
Eustace Mullins is the last living protege of Ezra Pound, the author of the only book burned in Germany since Hitler (a burning under the direction of Americans) and a former researcher for Joseph McCarthy. He’s known almost everyone on the American Right for the last 50 years, and is one of the most hated men in America in some circles. He belongs to no group, espouses no movement or party and doesn’t give a damn what you think of him. I found an affable 80 year- old man with a healthy sense of humor and a keen love for Liberty. Here’s a piece of my conversation with him on his front porch on July 8th, 2003.
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Let’s start with your first book, Secrets of the Federal Reserve.
I started the research in 1948, the year I met Ezra Pound. I worked for three years on that book and I went through 2000 books at the Library of Congress to get the material for it.
And you worked with George Stimson on Secrets of the Federal Reserve ?
Yes. George was quite a scholar. He was founder of the National Press Club, which did one terrible thing to this country. It created the myth that journalists are serious people. They’d always been known as drunks and fools up to that point, which is what they were. George, because he wasn’t a fool or a drunk, created the National Press Club as a place where serious journalists could be taken seriously. But there aren’t any. So the NPC became a big office building where a lot of lobbyists and journalists have their offices.
Ezra Pound commissioned me to write Secrets of the Federal Reserve for $10 a week. When I finished the book, no one would touch it. Devin Garrity said they couldn’t print it, and they’d be the only ones that could. We finally found a girl who printed a thousand copies and we sold it immediately. We sold it within a month, they took every book.
The German edition came out in ‘55 and it was burned by the German government.
Was there a rationale ?
Well, it went before a court hearing and judge named Israel Katz, an Occupation judge, ruled that the book was unconstitutional under German law. It broke laws against race and that was the legal excuse for them to ban the book. [author's note: Secrets of the Federal Reserve makes no mention of any race]
What was your immediate reaction to the book being burned ?
I was devastated because I expected to make money over there and of course Guido Roeder had put up his own money to print the book. I tried to sue the German govt. and the German govt. said they were still under the American occupation, so I sued the American govt. and they said that Germany had gotten its “freedom” back in 1953…some kind of treaty. It was a total runaround.
Other books of yours…?
The next book was The World Order. I reprinted Secrets of the Federal Reserve in ‘83, and it began to sell pretty well, being an updated book, so I printed The World Order which was sort of a spin-off of the research I had left over from revising Secrets of the Federal Reserve. Then I printed The Curse of Canaan, a study of demonology through history and I’m reprinting that this fall. I’ve never advertised any of these books, it’s all been word of mouth. I’ve never spent one penny on advertising, and the average NY publisher spends 30% of his budget on advertising.
How many copies of your books do you think are floating around out there?Over a million. I print 10,000 copies a run and I sell out and reprint them over and over again.
I found an entire copy of Secrets of the Federal Reserve on the internet. Do you mind that your books may be on the net ?
There’s nothing I can do about it. I’d like to have the money, but it’s more important that the information gets out there. That’s the key to the whole thing. If people know what’s going on, then there’s a chance that something could be done about it.
Maybe this will help sell some books…
Oh, it might. But I never count on anything. (chuckles)
When did you first become aware of the ADL ?
When Secrets of the Federal Reserve was printed finally, I had a little discussion group at the Library of Congress (I was working there at the time), it was very polyglot, blacks, students, a Jew…the Jewish boy said to me “This book is anti-semitic.” I said “What’re you talking about? There’s no mention of Jews.” He said “Oh no, the Anti-Defamation League…” (this was one of the first times I’d heard of the ADL) “…has publicly stated that it’s an anti- semitic book.” They’ve stuck to that since 1953 without ever citing one sentence that’s anti-semitic in it.
In the research you did for “Secrets of the Federal Reserve”, have you had to revise much in your reprints ?
Nothing I’ve written has ever been challenged by anyone. I’ve given many lectures around the world and no one has ever stood up and said “Mr. Mullins, you’re mistaken here…”. I was trained by Ezra Pound, the greatest mind of his day, and no one’s ever said he was mistaken, either.
What kind of man was Ezra Pound ?
He was a very genial person, he never quarreled with anyone, never attacked anyone but people were afraid of him. I used to invite Jews to come meet him at St. Elizabeth’s, but more often than not they wouldn’t show up.
He was most likely painted as a monster in their minds…
Oh yes. People invent their own monsters. Joe McCarthy, for example. Joe is still potrayed in the press daily as a monster that goaded people to their deaths, and they’ve never produced one person that he made a false accusation against.
I understand Ann Coulter just came out with a new book where she reviews Joe’s record and she shows there were no victims, they were dedicated Communists.
What’d you do for Joe McCarthy ?
I researched and wrote material for him. Actually, I destroyed Joe McCarthy because I introduced him to the real origins of Communism, which was the international bankers. He knew nothing about that. He thought Communists were little Jewish tailors on the Lower East Side of New York.
I showed him the connections between international bankers like the Rothschilds and Communism. You can’t have a worldwide movement without a lot of money behind it. It’s like when the circus comes to town. You have to pay someone to hang the posters.
On the John Birch Society…
Note from quintal : ernie from http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/mullins has contributed great comments to this post, contradicting Mullins statements about the JBS.
JBS was setup by Nelson Rockefeller. I knew two people at the original meeting. They needed a right-wing, anti-communist organization. NR decided that Robert Welch was the man to run JBS, so he arranged for the sale of Welch’s Candy Co. (where Robert Welch had been working for his brother John) to Nabisco (which was a Rockefeller controlled company) at a highly inflated price and Welch was given an income to run the John Birch Society.
Revilo Oliver was a good friend of mine and he was one of the founders of the JBS. He and I were sitting in his living room once and he told me that he knew Nelson Rockefeller ran the Birch Society because he had a revolving fund at Chase Manhattan Bank, and whenever Welch needed a quarter million dollars to meet the payroll, he’d go to CMB and withdraw the money.
Oliver told you that ?
Himself. One of the founders, can’t ask for better authority than that.
I traveled around for years and I was trusted because it was pretty well established that I was working for no one but myself, so people would be frank with me. I’m writing my autobiography now, which will break all these things out. It’ll be out this spring. I’ll go into JBS, McCarthy, Ezra Pound and e.e. cummings…
e.e. cummings was a wonderful person with a good sense of humor, but we never had many light-hearted conversations. Everybody in the country wanted to be e.e. cummings…
One day in 1952, Ezra said to me “I want you to go to New York and meet e.e. cummings”. I was kind of surprised that he wanted me to, so I hitchhiked up there…I had no money in those days, so I hitched everywhere…so I hitchhiked up to New York. I got to his place at about twilight and knocked on his door. I heard only silence. I knocked again and heard a voice saying “Who is it?” I said “Eustace Mullins”. The voice said “Who? Who sent you?” I said “Eustace Mullins…Ezra Pound sent me”. The door flew open, as Ezra was the open sesame.
e.e cummings managed to escape the smears…
He escaped the anti-semite smear, but not the anti-communist smear…
Speaking of Communists, what’s your take on their descendants, the Neocons?
The Neocons are worse than the Communists because they’re bent on world power more than the Communists ever were. The Neocons are more dangerous because they’ve taken Communism and hitched to the Jewish bandwagon. They see it as the final vehicle to world domination.
What about Jews ? Are you an anti-semite ?
I’ve always tried to defend that. When I went to New York in 1952, I met a lot of very Conservative Jews, Henry Klein, Benjamin Freedman and others, and they were real Jews by faith and race. The real Jews were Orthodox Jews, and they’ve believed for 2000 years that there can be no Jewish kingdom on earth until the coming of the Messiah. Of course, they refuse to admit that Jesus was the Messiah, so no Jewish kingdom…
In 1810, the Rothschilds began to push for a country for the Jews, so they created a new brand of Judaism called Reform Judaism which would establish a new Jewish country, which is now Israel. Only the Rothschilds could do that because to create a worldwide movement costs a lot of money.
Theodor Herzl’s The Jewish State was originally called Address to the Rothschilds
They financed Karl Marx and the League of Just Men, too. They financed Judaism, Communism and Nazism. Their goal has been constant, and you can’t succeed unless you have goals. (chuckles)
What do you think of the current political landscape ?
Amazingly, the Democrats have come up with nine candidates who’re all dumber than Bush. I though it would have been impossible to find nine people in the whole United States dumber than Bush.
You know Howard Dean’s campaign chair is Stephen Grossman, ex- president of AIPAC…
OH MY GOD! He is? Well, Jewish money is buying this campaign…
Dean’s another blank slate. He’s never done anything, and they’re raving about him. When you see someone become the darling of the media, watch out for someone like that. You know they’re compromised…compromised forever, you can’t expect anything from them.
What’s your opinion of Dubya and the Bush family ?
I wrote about the Bush family in my book The World Order which came out in 1985. They’d been lackeys of the Harriman family at Union Pacific, and the Harrimans were lackeys of the Rothschilds who put up the money for Union Pacific. George Herbert Walker, who was the first President Bush’s grandfather, was appointed head of Brown Brothers Harriman which handled all the Harriman investments. He did a very good job and the Bushes have been working for them ever since. They were all members of Skull and Bones at Yale.
We’d all been aware of how dumb George Bush Sr. was. Reagan, who was a well-known actor with charisma and was a good public speaker…in his steps came Bush who couldn’t utter a line and was a complete blank slate, he was a lousy president because he was such a bumbling, inarticulate person that he was a great disappointment to everybody. Bear in mind, we were still coasting on the Reagan years so he got through his presidency without too much trouble.
Anyway, we have George W. Bush, his son, who’s even more of a wimp than his father. But they were all Skull and Bones so everything they do is overlooked.
If you could sum up the current president in one sentence…
Lightweight is all that you can say. That covers everything.
What’s gonna happen to Bush ?
He’s no FDR, they can’t elect him four times. He’ll be forgotten quickly. His father’d be forgotten except that his son is president.
Speaking of Skull and Bones, did you know Anthony Sutton at all ?
I knew him well. I traveled with him for years.
His scholarship was very good. He was at the Hoover Institution, which was a Rothschild setup. It was setup after WWI to rewrite history. The Rothschilds sent hundreds of people through Europe after the war, through all the war-torn countries, to gather up as many records as they could so they could control their version of history.
Was that Sutton’s take, too ?
Well, I always considered Tony to be British Intelligence. He died last year, but I hadn’t seen him in several years because he was on the lam for eight years. He’d embezzled money from several people, promising to write books and never wrote them. What had happened was that he’d married a young Japanese girl and she had very expensive tastes, so he ran up a lot of debts.
That’s how they always screw you up…
I guess he was very happy with her, she was probably very pretty. I’ve spent a lot of time in Japan in the past 15 years, and the Japanese probably make the best wives. Very intelligent and they’re not depressing.
I think that’s why there’s so much homosexuality in the US, because the women are so impossible. They’re mean, greedy, vindictive, so whatever feminine qualities they have are almost totally submerged.
Let’s touch on the Council on Foreign Relations…
The CFR was a phoney institution, they’ve never had any power at all. They take their orders from the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London, the Rothschilds. This bugaboo about the CFR has always made me laugh. Back in the 50’s everybody thought the United States was ruled by this corrupt, sinister organization. In fact the CFR was a bunch of fatcats that got together in New York City, had dinner in luxurious hotels…they were all wealthy people, CEOS of banks and insurance companies and so forth…
So their place in the scheme of things is…?
They’re strictly a diversion. They had no power, and their policies were always written by the RIIA in London at Chatham House. I can’t find an instance where the CFR has inaugurated a policy of any kind. Even today, people read books from the 50’s about the sinister CFR and how sinister they are, like a KGB ruling the US…I always thought it a joke.
How deep into American society is Israeli intelligence ?
It’s universal. All the newspapers. Most of Mossad is volunteer anyway. They don’t have to go looking for it. All sensitive, confidential information is coming in from every government office every day. They’ve got better intelligence than George Bush has.
In both senses of the word…
Everything Bush gets is filtered, but Mossad gets the straight dope.
Where do you see it going from here ? More of the same ?
More of the same, to a point. The dam’s starting to break.
It’s begun, then ?
It’s well under way. Within ten years, we’ll see a complete revolution in world thinking.
Do you ascribe part of that to the internet ?
The internet is a sign that the damn is weakening. It’s unstoppable, like a natural force. They can wish it’ll go away, but it won’t.
Things come along when they’re needed enough.
You’ve been slogging away in relative obscurity for these 60 years…
You expect that. You stay in obscurity if you’re not marketing a profitable line of goods…
If you’re not a whore…
(laughs) If you’re not a whore. I’ve never tried to sell propaganda, and so I haven’t made much money, though I got along well enough without it.
Life is survival anyway, under the best of circumstances.
What are you proudest of in your life ?
Getting Ezra Pound out of St. Elizabeth’s, and now trying to rehabilitate Joe McCarthy. These are two of the most maligned persons of the 20th century. If I can change public thinking of these two men that I admired and loved, maybe they’ll get their just desserts.
Let’s talk about the Ruling Class: Jewish, Gentile, Gentile-Jewish…?
It’s more Gentile than Jewish, but the policies are ultimately Zionist-Jewish, through the Rothschild family.
They don’t give a damn about Jew or Christian, however. They’ll organize a massacre of Jews or Christians if it serves their purposes. Most of the pogroms in Europe were organized by Jews as a matter of policy.
They do the same thing in this country. Attacks on govt. buildings, OKC bombing, Waco, etc. are threats of terror in order to control people.
You’ve been studying these things for 60 years, and some members of my generation are just waking up to what you know. This thing has a million names, The New World Order, the Octopus…
You can call it anything, and it’s still the same thing. It’s five thousand years old. You’re not talking about something new when you speak of the CFR. They’ll use the CFR for a while and then abandon it and setup something else. The Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, what have you…
You say this goes back five thousand years…
It’s a generational war. We’re locked in the policies of the past…the Babylonian money system, the Babylonian religious system…
The interesting thing is, the more I studied this, the more simplified everything became. Patriots are always criticised for being very simplistic, but the fact is that once you get to a certain level of knowledge, everything is simple.
What do you want to do before you die ?
More work. I want to reprint these books and publish my autobiography.
Is there any part of history that you’ve been bitten or re- bitten by lately ?
Not at all, because what I see instead is a glorious future. I’ve said to people for years that America is at the dawn of its Republic now, because we never had a Republic. We’ve been under control of the bankers the whole time. We’ll get our own government and America will begin to have a history. We have no history. All we have is a history of Zionist intrigue. ~
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One can find many Eustace Mullins books on http://www.scribd.com/.
They have an automated filter to prevent their site from hosting copyrighted material but many users bypass the filter by misspelling the author’s name or shortening the book’s title.
al qaeda doesn’t exist
…Things that we understood in the week(s) after 9/11, which yet many still haven’t figured out up to today… so it bears a reminder.
full aaron russo interview by alex jones concerning nick rockefeller
original google video
“Hollywood director Russo goes in-depth for first time on the astounding admissions of Nick Rockefeller, including his prediction of 9/11 and the war on terror hoax, the Rockefeller’s creation of women’s lib, and the elite’s ultimate plan for world population reduction and a microchipped society. Aaron Russo joins Alex Jones for a fascinating sit-down in depth video interview on a plethora of important subjects.
Aaron begins by describing how the draconian and mafia tactics of Chicago police woke him up to the fact that America wasn’t free after his nightclub was routinely raided and he was forced to pay protection money.
Aaron and Alex then cover a broad range of topics including the private run for profit federal reserve, Aaron’s experience in the late 80’s with the IRS when they retroactively passed laws to punish silver and gold traders, the real meaning of the word “democracy,” what really happened on 9/11 and Aaron’s relationship with Nick Rockefeller, who personally tried to recruit him on behalf of the CFR.
Aaron also relates how Rockefeller told him that the elite created women’s liberation to destroy the family and how they want to ultimately microchip and control the entire population. Rockefeller also told before 9/11 Russo that an unexpected “event” would catalyze the U.S. to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.”
illuminazi 666, par rockin’squat
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En savoir + :
- Les Illuminati
http://www.syti.net/Organisations/Illuminati.html
- Skull & Bones
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones
- Le 33ème Degré
http://www.nouvelordremondial.cc/2007/08/02/degres-maconnique-du-rite-decosse/
- Aleister Crowley
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley
- L’OTO
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordo_Templi_Orientis
- La Reine Elisabeth Et Le Trafic D’opium
http://nouvelordremondial.over-blog.org/article-6950854.html
- Lee Harvey Oswald
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald
- La Warren Commission
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_Warren
- Néron
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A9ron
Nouvel Ordre Mondial
http://nouvelordremondial.over-blog.org/
Jordan Maxwell
http://www.google.fr/search?q=jordan+maxwell
Anthony Hilder
http://www.google.fr/search?q=anthony+hilder
traduction anglaise
(la transcription en français est dans les commentaires) :
haha
too many people don’t see anything
too many people don’t understand anything
blinded by submission
their global agenda, world conspiracy
welcome to where the info isn’t given by the sheitan
it’s squat, squat, nigga what nigga what
the banks cartel doesn’t control my rap
illuminazi six six six
like on the one-dollar bill one seven seven six
their technique : creating confusion
centralizing power, controling information
FBI CIA MI5 MI6
British and yanks shoot themselves with the same fix
ok let’s review history and let’s view your brains
from hitler to ben laden from skull and bones to OTO [or Otto?]
all the wars are wanted
all the wars are financed
since napoleon the secret societies are involved
hey! inform yourself about the thirty third degree
hey! inform yourself about aleyster crowley
churchill roosevelt the duke of kent
david rockefeller or sir gorbatchev
they’re all involved in these secret societies
john kerry george bush tony blair elizabeth
great she-boss of the opium black trade
ask william huntington russel if I’m kidding
prescott bush was hitler’s banker
and the duchess of kent has an SS officer as father
illuminazi six six six
revisited history in my mix mix mix
there are no attacks [like in "terrorist attacks"] only benefits
the royal aristocracy six six six
illuminazi six six six
the lie unmasked in my mix mix mix
there are no wars only benefits
the bankers the cartel six six six
skull and bones practice satanic rites
venerate jahbulon the name of the devil for the jews
magog is the name of george bush in their rite(s)
it’s the name of satan’s army ouch ouch there’s a problem here
the statue of george washington has the same pose as the devil
welcome to where it’s required to read the subliminal message
they have profanated jeronimo’s tomb
took out his bones and made a decoration out of them
there are no u.s.a. without columbia
everywhere you see this logo, beware
as you’ll have to beware when they talk about terrorists
nero talked about christians and hitler about communists
me i listen to jordan maxwell because he knows what he’s talking about
me i listen to anthony hilder because he knows what he’s talking about
if you aren’t hearing about those who know what they’re talking about
and your shitty rap record doesn’t know what it’s talking about
they killed kennedy and they re-killed kennedy
yet the kennedy family was illuminati
the warren commission was made of freemasons
so lee harvey oswald was guilty anyway
hey! ask yourself why the united kingdom
didn’t switch to the euro like all the other countries
for the power and the money they’re ready to any attack
like bombing the kurds that’s 40 percent of iraq’s oil
illuminazi six six six
revisited history in my mix mix mix
there are no attacks [like in "terrorist attacks"] only benefits
the royal aristocracy six six six
illuminazi six six six
the lie unmasked in my mix mix mix
there are no wars only benefits
the bankers the cartel six six six
the secret cult of the oligarchy that controls the world
in invisible to the masses hidden under the rubble
of History written for control
fascist democracy often plays the first role
me i’m accusing the mac donald the duponts the rockefeller
the dukes the astor the “de rense” or the baker
the families who control the new world order
i challenge you to prove the contrary motherfuckers
you waste your time on the net saying the squat is fake
while you’re jerking off on the net me i’m bringing in the real infos
the Otto group or the council of thirteen
the club of rome these are the ones that matter [weigh]
if you’re taking on the bourgeoisie take on the ones who are fucking you up
and quit you dummy talk “i’m the street and i’m fucking you”
because you’re not fucking anyone as soon as you got a cellphone
a social security number a passport to babylon
a magnetic numeric-chip card
in the digital era all received by satellite
you’re lost like the ones who still believe
that on 911 it’s bin laden who blew up the scenery
it’s like believing that the nazi concentration camps
didn’t have the support of the allies and the united states
everything is dirty tricks, check it up, everything’s there
from the state of israel, to the shady deals, to france-africa
illuminazi six six six
revisited history in my mix mix mix
there are no attacks [like in "terrorist attacks"] only benefits
the royal aristocracy six six six
illuminazi six six six
the lie unmasked in my mix mix mix
there are no wars only benefits
the bankers the cartel six six six
(the french transcript of the song’s lyrics is in the comments section)
Fascist America, in 10 easy steps — by Naomi Wolf
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html
From Hitler to Pinochet and beyond, history shows there are certain steps that any would-be dictator must take to destroy constitutional freedoms. And, argues Naomi Wolf, George Bush and his administration seem to be taking them all.
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<< Last autumn, there was a military coup in Thailand. The leaders of the coup took a number of steps, rather systematically, as if they had a shopping list. In a sense, they did. Within a matter of days, democracy had been closed down: the coup leaders declared martial law, sent armed soldiers into residential areas, took over radio and TV stations, issued restrictions on the press, tightened some limits on travel, and took certain activists into custody.
They were not figuring these things out as they went along. If you look at history, you can see that there is essentially a blueprint for turning an open society into a dictatorship. That blueprint has been used again and again in more and less bloody, more and less terrifying ways. But it is always effective. It is very difficult and arduous to create and sustain a democracy – but history shows that closing one down is much simpler. You simply have to be willing to take the 10 steps.As difficult as this is to contemplate, it is clear, if you are willing to look, that each of these 10 steps has already been initiated today in the United States by the Bush administration.
Because Americans like me were born in freedom, we have a hard time even considering that it is possible for us to become as unfree – domestically – as many other nations. Because we no longer learn much about our rights or our system of government – the task of being aware of the constitution has been outsourced from citizens’ ownership to being the domain of professionals such as lawyers and professors – we scarcely recognise the checks and balances that the founders put in place, even as they are being systematically dismantled. Because we don’t learn much about European history, the setting up of a department of “homeland” security – remember who else was keen on the word “homeland” – didn’t raise the alarm bells it might have.
It is my argument that, beneath our very noses, George Bush and his administration are using time-tested tactics to close down an open society. It is time for us to be willing to think the unthinkable – as the author and political journalist Joe Conason, has put it, that it can happen here. And that we are further along than we realise.
Conason eloquently warned of the danger of American authoritarianism. I am arguing that we need also to look at the lessons of European and other kinds of fascism to understand the potential seriousness of the events we see unfolding in the US.
1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
After we were hit on September 11 2001, we were in a state of national shock. Less than six weeks later, on October 26 2001, the USA Patriot Act was passed by a Congress that had little chance to debate it; many said that they scarcely had time to read it. We were told we were now on a “war footing”; we were in a “global war” against a “global caliphate” intending to “wipe out civilisation”. There have been other times of crisis in which the US accepted limits on civil liberties, such as during the civil war, when Lincoln declared martial law, and the second world war, when thousands of Japanese-American citizens were interned. But this situation, as Bruce Fein of the American Freedom Agenda notes, is unprecedented: all our other wars had an endpoint, so the pendulum was able to swing back toward freedom; this war is defined as open-ended in time and without national boundaries in space – the globe itself is the battlefield. “This time,” Fein says, “there will be no defined end.”
Creating a terrifying threat – hydra-like, secretive, evil – is an old trick. It can, like Hitler’s invocation of a communist threat to the nation’s security, be based on actual events (one Wisconsin academic has faced calls for his dismissal because he noted, among other things, that the alleged communist arson, the Reichstag fire of February 1933, was swiftly followed in Nazi Germany by passage of the Enabling Act, which replaced constitutional law with an open-ended state of emergency). Or the terrifying threat can be based, like the National Socialist evocation of the “global conspiracy of world Jewry”, on myth.
It is not that global Islamist terrorism is not a severe danger; of course it is. I am arguing rather that the language used to convey the nature of the threat is different in a country such as Spain – which has also suffered violent terrorist attacks – than it is in America. Spanish citizens know that they face a grave security threat; what we as American citizens believe is that we are potentially threatened with the end of civilisation as we know it. Of course, this makes us more willing to accept restrictions on our freedoms.
2. Create a gulag
Once you have got everyone scared, the next step is to create a prison system outside the rule of law (as Bush put it, he wanted the American detention centre at Guantánamo Bay to be situated in legal “outer space”) – where torture takes place.
At first, the people who are sent there are seen by citizens as outsiders: troublemakers, spies, “enemies of the people” or “criminals”. Initially, citizens tend to support the secret prison system; it makes them feel safer and they do not identify with the prisoners. But soon enough, civil society leaders – opposition members, labour activists, clergy and journalists – are arrested and sent there as well.
This process took place in fascist shifts or anti-democracy crackdowns ranging from Italy and Germany in the 1920s and 1930s to the Latin American coups of the 1970s and beyond. It is standard practice for closing down an open society or crushing a pro-democracy uprising.
With its jails in Iraq and Afghanistan, and, of course, Guantánamo in Cuba, where detainees are abused, and kept indefinitely without trial and without access to the due process of the law, America certainly has its gulag now. Bush and his allies in Congress recently announced they would issue no information about the secret CIA “black site” prisons throughout the world, which are used to incarcerate people who have been seized off the street.
Gulags in history tend to metastasise, becoming ever larger and more secretive, ever more deadly and formalised. We know from first-hand accounts, photographs, videos and government documents that people, innocent and guilty, have been tortured in the US-run prisons we are aware of and those we can’t investigate adequately.
But Americans still assume this system and detainee abuses involve only scary brown people with whom they don’t generally identify. It was brave of the conservative pundit William Safire to quote the anti-Nazi pastor Martin Niemöller, who had been seized as a political prisoner: “First they came for the Jews.” Most Americans don’t understand yet that the destruction of the rule of law at Guantánamo set a dangerous precedent for them, too.
By the way, the establishment of military tribunals that deny prisoners due process tends to come early on in a fascist shift. Mussolini and Stalin set up such tribunals. On April 24 1934, the Nazis, too, set up the People’s Court, which also bypassed the judicial system: prisoners were held indefinitely, often in isolation, and tortured, without being charged with offences, and were subjected to show trials. Eventually, the Special Courts became a parallel system that put pressure on the regular courts to abandon the rule of law in favour of Nazi ideology when making decisions.
3. Develop a thug caste
When leaders who seek what I call a “fascist shift” want to close down an open society, they send paramilitary groups of scary young men out to terrorise citizens. The Blackshirts roamed the Italian countryside beating up communists; the Brownshirts staged violent rallies throughout Germany. This paramilitary force is especially important in a democracy: you need citizens to fear thug violence and so you need thugs who are free from prosecution.
The years following 9/11 have proved a bonanza for America’s security contractors, with the Bush administration outsourcing areas of work that traditionally fell to the US military. In the process, contracts worth hundreds of millions of dollars have been issued for security work by mercenaries at home and abroad. In Iraq, some of these contract operatives have been accused of involvement in torturing prisoners, harassing journalists and firing on Iraqi civilians. Under Order 17, issued to regulate contractors in Iraq by the one-time US administrator in Baghdad, Paul Bremer, these contractors are immune from prosecution
Yes, but that is in Iraq, you could argue; however, after Hurricane Katrina, the Department of Homeland Security hired and deployed hundreds of armed private security guards in New Orleans. The investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill interviewed one unnamed guard who reported having fired on unarmed civilians in the city. It was a natural disaster that underlay that episode – but the administration’s endless war on terror means ongoing scope for what are in effect privately contracted armies to take on crisis and emergency management at home in US cities.
Thugs in America? Groups of angry young Republican men, dressed in identical shirts and trousers, menaced poll workers counting the votes in Florida in 2000. If you are reading history, you can imagine that there can be a need for “public order” on the next election day. Say there are protests, or a threat, on the day of an election; history would not rule out the presence of a private security firm at a polling station “to restore public order”.
4. Set up an internal surveillance system
In Mussolini’s Italy, in Nazi Germany, in communist East Germany, in communist China – in every closed society – secret police spy on ordinary people and encourage neighbours to spy on neighbours. The Stasi needed to keep only a minority of East Germans under surveillance to convince a majority that they themselves were being watched.
In 2005 and 2006, when James Risen and Eric Lichtblau wrote in the New York Times about a secret state programme to wiretap citizens’ phones, read their emails and follow international financial transactions, it became clear to ordinary Americans that they, too, could be under state scrutiny.
In closed societies, this surveillance is cast as being about “national security”; the true function is to keep citizens docile and inhibit their activism and dissent.
5. Harass citizens’ groups
The fifth thing you do is related to step four – you infiltrate and harass citizens’ groups. It can be trivial: a church in Pasadena, whose minister preached that Jesus was in favour of peace, found itself being investigated by the Internal Revenue Service, while churches that got Republicans out to vote, which is equally illegal under US tax law, have been left alone.
Other harassment is more serious: the American Civil Liberties Union reports that thousands of ordinary American anti-war, environmental and other groups have been infiltrated by agents: a secret Pentagon database includes more than four dozen peaceful anti-war meetings, rallies or marches by American citizens in its category of 1,500 “suspicious incidents”. The equally secret Counterintelligence Field Activity (Cifa) agency of the Department of Defense has been gathering information about domestic organisations engaged in peaceful political activities: Cifa is supposed to track “potential terrorist threats” as it watches ordinary US citizen activists. A little-noticed new law has redefined activism such as animal rights protests as “terrorism”. So the definition of “terrorist” slowly expands to include the opposition.
6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
This scares people. It is a kind of cat-and-mouse game. Nicholas D Kristof and Sheryl WuDunn, the investigative reporters who wrote China Wakes: the Struggle for the Soul of a Rising Power, describe pro-democracy activists in China, such as Wei Jingsheng, being arrested and released many times. In a closing or closed society there is a “list” of dissidents and opposition leaders: you are targeted in this way once you are on the list, and it is hard to get off the list.
In 2004, America’s Transportation Security Administration confirmed that it had a list of passengers who were targeted for security searches or worse if they tried to fly. People who have found themselves on the list? Two middle-aged women peace activists in San Francisco; liberal Senator Edward Kennedy; a member of Venezuela’s government – after Venezuela’s president had criticised Bush; and thousands of ordinary US citizens.
Professor Walter F Murphy is emeritus of Princeton University; he is one of the foremost constitutional scholars in the nation and author of the classic Constitutional Democracy. Murphy is also a decorated former marine, and he is not even especially politically liberal. But on March 1 this year, he was denied a boarding pass at Newark, “because I was on the Terrorist Watch list”.
“Have you been in any peace marches? We ban a lot of people from flying because of that,” asked the airline employee.
“I explained,” said Murphy, “that I had not so marched but had, in September 2006, given a lecture at Princeton, televised and put on the web, highly critical of George Bush for his many violations of the constitution.”
“That’ll do it,” the man said.
Anti-war marcher? Potential terrorist. Support the constitution? Potential terrorist. History shows that the categories of “enemy of the people” tend to expand ever deeper into civil life.
James Yee, a US citizen, was the Muslim chaplain at Guantánamo who was accused of mishandling classified documents. He was harassed by the US military before the charges against him were dropped. Yee has been detained and released several times. He is still of interest.
Brandon Mayfield, a US citizen and lawyer in Oregon, was mistakenly identified as a possible terrorist. His house was secretly broken into and his computer seized. Though he is innocent of the accusation against him, he is still on the list.
It is a standard practice of fascist societies that once you are on the list, you can’t get off.
7. Target key individuals
Threaten civil servants, artists and academics with job loss if they don’t toe the line. Mussolini went after the rectors of state universities who did not conform to the fascist line; so did Joseph Goebbels, who purged academics who were not pro-Nazi; so did Chile’s Augusto Pinochet; so does the Chinese communist Politburo in punishing pro-democracy students and professors.
Academe is a tinderbox of activism, so those seeking a fascist shift punish academics and students with professional loss if they do not “coordinate”, in Goebbels’ term, ideologically. Since civil servants are the sector of society most vulnerable to being fired by a given regime, they are also a group that fascists typically “coordinate” early on: the Reich Law for the Re-establishment of a Professional Civil Service was passed on April 7 1933.
Bush supporters in state legislatures in several states put pressure on regents at state universities to penalise or fire academics who have been critical of the administration. As for civil servants, the Bush administration has derailed the career of one military lawyer who spoke up for fair trials for detainees, while an administration official publicly intimidated the law firms that represent detainees pro bono by threatening to call for their major corporate clients to boycott them.
Elsewhere, a CIA contract worker who said in a closed blog that “waterboarding is torture” was stripped of the security clearance she needed in order to do her job.
Most recently, the administration purged eight US attorneys for what looks like insufficient political loyalty. When Goebbels purged the civil service in April 1933, attorneys were “coordinated” too, a step that eased the way of the increasingly brutal laws to follow.
8. Control the press
Italy in the 1920s, Germany in the 30s, East Germany in the 50s, Czechoslovakia in the 60s, the Latin American dictatorships in the 70s, China in the 80s and 90s – all dictatorships and would-be dictators target newspapers and journalists. They threaten and harass them in more open societies that they are seeking to close, and they arrest them and worse in societies that have been closed already.
The Committee to Protect Journalists says arrests of US journalists are at an all-time high: Josh Wolf (no relation), a blogger in San Francisco, has been put in jail for a year for refusing to turn over video of an anti-war demonstration; Homeland Security brought a criminal complaint against reporter Greg Palast, claiming he threatened “critical infrastructure” when he and a TV producer were filming victims of Hurricane Katrina in Louisiana. Palast had written a bestseller critical of the Bush administration.
Other reporters and writers have been punished in other ways. Joseph C Wilson accused Bush, in a New York Times op-ed, of leading the country to war on the basis of a false charge that Saddam Hussein had acquired yellowcake uranium in Niger. His wife, Valerie Plame, was outed as a CIA spy – a form of retaliation that ended her career.
Prosecution and job loss are nothing, though, compared with how the US is treating journalists seeking to cover the conflict in Iraq in an unbiased way. The Committee to Protect Journalists has documented multiple accounts of the US military in Iraq firing upon or threatening to fire upon unembedded (meaning independent) reporters and camera operators from organisations ranging from al-Jazeera to the BBC. While westerners may question the accounts by al-Jazeera, they should pay attention to the accounts of reporters such as the BBC’s Kate Adie. In some cases reporters have been wounded or killed, including ITN’s Terry Lloyd in 2003. Both CBS and the Associated Press in Iraq had staff members seized by the US military and taken to violent prisons; the news organisations were unable to see the evidence against their staffers.
Over time in closing societies, real news is supplanted by fake news and false documents. Pinochet showed Chilean citizens falsified documents to back up his claim that terrorists had been about to attack the nation. The yellowcake charge, too, was based on forged papers.
You won’t have a shutdown of news in modern America – it is not possible. But you can have, as Frank Rich and Sidney Blumenthal have pointed out, a steady stream of lies polluting the news well. What you already have is a White House directing a stream of false information that is so relentless that it is increasingly hard to sort out truth from untruth. In a fascist system, it’s not the lies that count but the muddying. When citizens can’t tell real news from fake, they give up their demands for accountability bit by bit.
9. Dissent equals treason
Cast dissent as “treason” and criticism as “espionage’. Every closing society does this, just as it elaborates laws that increasingly criminalise certain kinds of speech and expand the definition of “spy” and “traitor”. When Bill Keller, the publisher of the New York Times, ran the Lichtblau/Risen stories, Bush called the Times’ leaking of classified information “disgraceful”, while Republicans in Congress called for Keller to be charged with treason, and rightwing commentators and news outlets kept up the “treason” drumbeat. Some commentators, as Conason noted, reminded readers smugly that one penalty for violating the Espionage Act is execution.
Conason is right to note how serious a threat that attack represented. It is also important to recall that the 1938 Moscow show trial accused the editor of Izvestia, Nikolai Bukharin, of treason; Bukharin was, in fact, executed. And it is important to remind Americans that when the 1917 Espionage Act was last widely invoked, during the infamous 1919 Palmer Raids, leftist activists were arrested without warrants in sweeping roundups, kept in jail for up to five months, and “beaten, starved, suffocated, tortured and threatened with death”, according to the historian Myra MacPherson. After that, dissent was muted in America for a decade.
In Stalin’s Soviet Union, dissidents were “enemies of the people”. National Socialists called those who supported Weimar democracy “November traitors”.
And here is where the circle closes: most Americans do not realise that since September of last year – when Congress wrongly, foolishly, passed the Military Commissions Act of 2006 – the president has the power to call any US citizen an “enemy combatant”. He has the power to define what “enemy combatant” means. The president can also delegate to anyone he chooses in the executive branch the right to define “enemy combatant” any way he or she wants and then seize Americans accordingly.
Even if you or I are American citizens, even if we turn out to be completely innocent of what he has accused us of doing, he has the power to have us seized as we are changing planes at Newark tomorrow, or have us taken with a knock on the door; ship you or me to a navy brig; and keep you or me in isolation, possibly for months, while awaiting trial. (Prolonged isolation, as psychiatrists know, triggers psychosis in otherwise mentally healthy prisoners. That is why Stalin’s gulag had an isolation cell, like Guantánamo’s, in every satellite prison. Camp 6, the newest, most brutal facility at Guantánamo, is all isolation cells.)
We US citizens will get a trial eventually – for now. But legal rights activists at the Center for Constitutional Rights say that the Bush administration is trying increasingly aggressively to find ways to get around giving even US citizens fair trials. “Enemy combatant” is a status offence – it is not even something you have to have done. “We have absolutely moved over into a preventive detention model – you look like you could do something bad, you might do something bad, so we’re going to hold you,” says a spokeswoman of the CCR.
Most Americans surely do not get this yet. No wonder: it is hard to believe, even though it is true. In every closing society, at a certain point there are some high-profile arrests – usually of opposition leaders, clergy and journalists. Then everything goes quiet. After those arrests, there are still newspapers, courts, TV and radio, and the facades of a civil society. There just isn’t real dissent. There just isn’t freedom. If you look at history, just before those arrests is where we are now.
10. Suspend the rule of law
The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 gave the president new powers over the national guard. This means that in a national emergency – which the president now has enhanced powers to declare – he can send Michigan’s militia to enforce a state of emergency that he has declared in Oregon, over the objections of the state’s governor and its citizens.
Even as Americans were focused on Britney Spears’s meltdown and the question of who fathered Anna Nicole’s baby, the New York Times editorialised about this shift: “A disturbing recent phenomenon in Washington is that laws that strike to the heart of American democracy have been passed in the dead of night … Beyond actual insurrection, the president may now use military troops as a domestic police force in response to a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, terrorist attack or any ‘other condition’.”
Critics see this as a clear violation of the Posse Comitatus Act – which was meant to restrain the federal government from using the military for domestic law enforcement. The Democratic senator Patrick Leahy says the bill encourages a president to declare federal martial law. It also violates the very reason the founders set up our system of government as they did: having seen citizens bullied by a monarch’s soldiers, the founders were terrified of exactly this kind of concentration of militias’ power over American people in the hands of an oppressive executive or faction.
Of course, the United States is not vulnerable to the violent, total closing-down of the system that followed Mussolini’s march on Rome or Hitler’s roundup of political prisoners. Our democratic habits are too resilient, and our military and judiciary too independent, for any kind of scenario like that.
Rather, as other critics are noting, our experiment in democracy could be closed down by a process of erosion.
It is a mistake to think that early in a fascist shift you see the profile of barbed wire against the sky. In the early days, things look normal on the surface; peasants were celebrating harvest festivals in Calabria in 1922; people were shopping and going to the movies in Berlin in 1931. Early on, as WH Auden put it, the horror is always elsewhere – while someone is being tortured, children are skating, ships are sailing: “dogs go on with their doggy life … How everything turns away/ Quite leisurely from the disaster.”
As Americans turn away quite leisurely, keeping tuned to internet shopping and American Idol, the foundations of democracy are being fatally corroded. Something has changed profoundly that weakens us unprecedentedly: our democratic traditions, independent judiciary and free press do their work today in a context in which we are “at war” in a “long war” – a war without end, on a battlefield described as the globe, in a context that gives the president – without US citizens realising it yet – the power over US citizens of freedom or long solitary incarceration, on his say-so alone.
That means a hollowness has been expanding under the foundation of all these still- free-looking institutions – and this foundation can give way under certain kinds of pressure. To prevent such an outcome, we have to think about the “what ifs”.
What if, in a year and a half, there is another attack – say, God forbid, a dirty bomb? The executive can declare a state of emergency. History shows that any leader, of any party, will be tempted to maintain emergency powers after the crisis has passed. With the gutting of traditional checks and balances, we are no less endangered by a President Hillary than by a President Giuliani – because any executive will be tempted to enforce his or her will through edict rather than the arduous, uncertain process of democratic negotiation and compromise.
What if the publisher of a major US newspaper were charged with treason or espionage, as a rightwing effort seemed to threaten Keller with last year? What if he or she got 10 years in jail? What would the newspapers look like the next day? Judging from history, they would not cease publishing; but they would suddenly be very polite.
Right now, only a handful of patriots are trying to hold back the tide of tyranny for the rest of us – staff at the Center for Constitutional Rights, who faced death threats for representing the detainees yet persisted all the way to the Supreme Court; activists at the American Civil Liberties Union; and prominent conservatives trying to roll back the corrosive new laws, under the banner of a new group called the American Freedom Agenda. This small, disparate collection of people needs everybody’s help, including that of Europeans and others internationally who are willing to put pressure on the administration because they can see what a US unrestrained by real democracy at home can mean for the rest of the world.
We need to look at history and face the “what ifs”. For if we keep going down this road, the “end of America” could come for each of us in a different way, at a different moment; each of us might have a different moment when we feel forced to look back and think: that is how it was before – and this is the way it is now.
“The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands … is the definition of tyranny,” wrote James Madison. We still have the choice to stop going down this road; we can stand our ground and fight for our nation, and take up the banner the founders asked us to carry.
· Naomi Wolf’s The End of America: A Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot will be published by Chelsea Green in September.
aaron russo recalling his chats with nick rockefeller
UPDATE : I found the full video of this interview here and I’m making a new post with it.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609
Hollywood director and documentary film maker Aaron Russo has gone in-depth on the astounding admissions of Nick Rockefeller, who personally told him that the elite’s ultimate goal was to create a microchipped population and that the war on terror was a hoax, Rockefeller having predicted an “event” that would trigger the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan eleven months before 9/11.
Rockefeller also told Russo that his family’s foundation had created and bankrolled the women’s liberation movement in order to destroy the family and that population reduction was a fundamental aim of the global elite.
traduction et transcription publiée par jean-pierre petit sur cette page de son site.

“ - Il m’a fait ces confidences 11 mois avant les attentats du 11 septembre 2001. Il m’a dit alors qu’un évènement allait se produire. Il ne m’a pas dit de quoi il s’agisssait. Mais il m’a dit qu’à partir de cet évènement nous allions envahir l’Afghanistan, construire des pipelines pour amener le pétrole de la Caspienne, que nous allions envahir l’Irak pour prendre le contrôle du pétrole au Moyen-Orient et pouvoir nous implanter là-bas et intégrer cette région dans un nouvel ordre mondial et qu’ensuite nous irions nous occuper de Chavez, au Vénézuela. Je me rappelle qu’il me disait qu’on verrait des soldats fouiller des grottes, à la recherche des responsables, en Afghanistan, au Pakistan et dans toutes ces régions-là. Il y aurait alors une guerre contre le terrorisme où il n’y aurait pas de véritable ennemi. Tout cela ne serait qu’un mystification. Ce serait une façon pour le gouvernement de contrôler les Américains
- Il vous a bien dit que cela serait un mensonge ?
- Oh, oui. Ce fut tout à fait clair. C’est ça la guerre contre le terrorisme. Pourquoi pensez-vous que rien n’est arrivé depuis les attentats du 11 septembre ? Vous croyez que la sécurité ici est si grande que ceux qui ont détourné des avions ne peuvent plus tenter la moindre chose, qu’ils ne peuvent plus détourner le moindre avion ? Allons, c’est ridicule ! Le 11 septembre a été instrumenté par des gens du gouvernement, liés à notre propre système bancaire pour créer au sein de la population américaine un climat de peur et pour que ces gens acceptent tout ce qu’ils sont en train de mettre en place ici et qu’ils acceptent toutes les décisions qui seront prises par notre gouvernement. Voilà de quoi il s’agit : d’une fausse guerre sans fin contre le terrorisme. C’est le premier des mensonges. Le mensonge suivant a été l’invasion de l’Irak et prétendant qu’on allait se rendre là-bas pour faire tomber Saddam et à cause de la présence d’armes de destruction massive.
- Et tout cela c’était 11 mois mois avant les attentats du 11 septembre ?
- Oui
- Vous avez été amis pendant les années qui ont précédé et il vous a dit à cette époque qu’il y aurait ce grand évènement et cette guerre contre le terrorisme, etc.
- Tout à fait. Et il a ajouté qu’il n’y aurait pas d’ennmi réellement identifié, de sorte qu’il ne pourrait pas y avoir de vainqueur
- Et il ajouté que ça serait parfait qu’on ne puisse pas trouver de responsable
- Oui, il a dit qu’ainsi il ne pourrait jamais y avoir de victoire définitive et qu’ainsi le conflit pourrait s’éterniser. Et il a ajouté que pendant ce temps on pourrait faire ce qu’on voudrait, en maintenant le peuple américain dans la peur. Toute cette guerre contre le terrorisme n’est qu’une mystification, une vaste plaisanterie ! C’est quelque chose dont les gens ont beaucoup de mal à parler car ils se sentent menacés ( intimidate ). On les menace pour qu’ils se taisent. Mais la vérité doit être révélée. L’important est que les gens sachent que cette guerre contre le terrorisme n’est qu’une immense mystification Cette guerre contre le terrorisme c’est qu’une vaste blague ! Et cela durera tant qu’on aura pas découvert ce qui s’est passé exactement le 11 septembre et quels sont les véritables responsables de ces évènements. C’est le point de départ de guerre contre le terrorisme. Tant qu’on ne connaîtra pas la vérité sur le 11 septembre et qui a tiré les ficelles dans tout cela nous ne saurons pas la vérité sur cette prétendue guerre contre le terrorisme.
- Vous avez dit que vous aviez connu Nick Rockfeller quand vous aviez vingt ans et que c’était un expert en jeu de cartes. Il savait par ailleurs que vous étiez depuis engagé dans différentes actions, que vous aviez fait des films Puis vous vous êtes rencontrés dans une soirée. La question de “puces est venue sur le tapis et on vous a dit ” Hey, si on vous recrute dans notre groupe, ne vous inquiétez pas. Vous serez équipé d’une puce qui permettra de vous reconnaître et vous deviendrez intouchable.
- Il est exact que j’ai été l’objet d’une proposition de recrutement. Vous savez, on se voyait, on dînait ensemble, on parlait de choses et d’autres. Il me parlait de ses investissements par-ci, de ses investissements par là. Il m’a demandé si cela pouvait m’intéresser de rejoindre le ” Council for Foreign Relations ” , le bureau des relations avec l’étranger. Je n’ai pas franchi le pas, parce que je savais d’où je venais. Je lui ai dit ” je t’aime bien, Nick, mais ça n’est pas ma façon de concevoir des choses. Je n’ai pas envie d’asservir les gens.
- Il est revenu à la charge plus tard ?
- Il m’a dit ” pourquoi te soucies-tu des gens ? Pourquoi sont-ils un souci pour ton. Occupe-toi de ta propre vie. Fais de ton mieux pour tois et ta famille. En quoi est-ce que la vie des autres devrait de toucher ? C’est gens sont des serfs, c’est juste le peuple. Chez lui c’était de la simple indifférence et ce n’était pas comme cela que j’étais, moi. Il voyait ces gens comme du simple bétail ( cow ). Je lui ai demandé ” quel but poursuis-tu dans tout cela ? Tu as tout l’argent que tu veux. Tu as tout le pouvoir dont tu as besoin. Quel est ton objectif ? Et il m’a répoondu que l’objectif était que tous les gens soient équipés d’une puce, ce que puçage permettrait de contrôler l’ensemble de la société. Ce sont les banquiers qui doivent contrôler le monde. Et je lui ai demandé si tous les gens au CFR pensaient comme lui, et il n’a répondu ” oh , non, non ! La plupart d’entre eux sont convaincus qu’ils oeuvrent pour le bien commun “. Il y a une autre chose qu’il m’a dite : ” que penses tu de phénomène de l’émancipation des femmes ? “. J’ai répondu que j’étais assez convaincu de ce combat pour cette émancipation, que je pensais que les femmes avaient le droit de travailler et d’être payées comme les hommes, qu’elles avaient le droit de voter. Ila rigolé et m’a alors arrêté en me disant ” tu n’es qu’un idiot ! “. Je lui ai dit ” pourquoi suis-je un idiot ?” . Il m’a alors dit ” je vais te dire ce qu’il en est exactement. C’est nous, les Rockefeller qui avons financé tout cela. Nous sommes à l’origine de ce mouvement de libération des femmes. Nous, qui possédons les journaux, les télévisions et la fondation Rockefeller. Tu veux savoir quelles sont les principales raisons qui nous ont amenés à faire cela ? La première est que tant que les femmes ne travaillaient pas, on ne percevait des impôt que sur la moitié de la population. La seconde raison est que maintenant les gosses sont scolarisés beaucoup plus tôt. On peut donc les endoctriner en brisant le lien familial. Les enfants se mettent alors à considérer que leur véritable famille c’est l’état et que les véritables représentants de l’autorité ne sont pas les membres de leur famille mais leurs enseignants. Et voilà la véritable raison pour laquelle nous avons poussé à l’émancipation des femmes “. Avant je considérais cela comme une tâche noble, mais quand j’ai vu ce qui se cachait derrière j’ai vu tout le mal qui se cachait derrière cette aventure .
- Saviez-vous que c’était la CIA qui avait créé Miss Magazine ?
- Non, ça je l’ignorais. La CIA a fondé Miss Magazine ?
- Oui et le but était de tirer un revenu de toutes celles qui achèteraient de journal
- Je savais que la CIA était impliquée là-dedans.
…………………… interruption et raccord……………………………….
- Mon amitié avec Nick Rockefeller nous permettait d’avoir des échanges de vue, de philosophies de la vie. Il voulait que je fasse partie de son groupe et fasse ce qu’ils étaient en train de faire, que je devienne membre du CFR, que cela m’apportenait beaucoup d’opportunités question travail et que c’était une façon de cesser de me battre contre eux en informant la population ( voir les films produits à cette époque par Aaron Russo, qui n’allaient pas précisément dans le sens souhaité par les Rockefeller ). Je peux dire que j’ai eu beaucoup de succès dans l’industrie du cinéma. J’ai vu ce qui était en train de se passer et j’ai essayé d’informer les gens Mais plutôt que je partage cette vérité avec les gens il voulait que je les rejoigne. C’était aussi simple que ça. Et il a alors essayé de me recruter. Mais j’ai refusé de coopérer. Je me rappelle qu’un jour il m’a dit ” si tu nous rejoins, tu auras une carte d’identité avec une puce. Ainsi, si un jour quelqu’un t’arrête, un flic par exemple, tu n’auras qu’à sortir ta carte avec sa puce et on te laissera tranquille parce qu’on saura que tu es l’un des nôtres “. Et il m’a demandé : ” mais pourquoi est-ce que tu te bats pour les gens ? Ces gens doivent être conduits, contrôlés. La constitution pour laquelle tu te bats n’est faite que pour une minorité de gens qui peuvent vivre selon le termes de cette constitution. Nous pensons que la société doit être placée sous l’autorité d’une élite qui contrôle toutes choses “. Et moi j’ai répondu ” je ne crois pas cela. Je crois que Dieu m’a fait naître pour que devienne la meilleure personne possible et que c’est la même chose pour tout le monde, que tout le monde doit suivre cette voie. Ces gens n’ont pas à devenir vos esclaves. Je ne comprends pas pourquoi tu veux tout contrôler. A quel besoin cela correspond-t-il chez toi ? Je lui ai demandé si tous les gens du CFR voyaient les choses de la même façon que lui. Il m’a dit que beaucoup croyaient qu’ils agissaient pour le bien et que le socialisme était la bonne direction à prendre. Eux, pensent qu’ils font le bien. Seuls les gens qui sont aux sommets connaissent la vérité.
- Donc il semble qu’il y ait une compartimentation, une hiérarchie au sein même de cette élite.
- Bien sûr. Au sein du CFR il a, disons, 2000 ou 3000 personnes. Je ne connais pas le chiffre exact. mais il ne savent pas ce qu’il en est exactement. Ils ont seulement rejoint le CFR parce que c’était une organisation de prestige. Il pense que c’est bon pour les affaires, que c’est bon pour ceci, cela, Mais ils ne savent pas quelles sont les mauvaises intentions qui se situent derrière. Pour moi, le pire est ce qui arrive maintenant. Parce que ce qui s’est produit le 11 septembre est un crime ( felony ).
- Qu’est-ce que vous avez pensé en ce matin du 11 septembre ? Est-ce que vous avez pensé à tout ce que Nick Rockfeller vous avait dit ?
- A l’époque j’étais à Tahiti et mon fils m’a appelé. Il m’a dit que les tours jumelles avaient été attaquées. Moi j’étais à Tahiti. C’était la nuit et je dormais. Lui me parlait de crashes d’avions et moi j’étais à Tahiti. Là où j’étais il n’y avait pas de télévision et j’ai du sortir et cchercher pour en trouver une et voir ces infos. Mais je n’ai pas immédiatement fait le lien avec ce que Nick m’avait dit. Mais quand par la suite j’ai vu qu’ils envahissaient l’Afghanistan et j’Irak alors j’ai compris. Avec Nick on avait discuté de pas mal de choses. Parmi les sujets de conversation l’un se référait à la réduction de la population mondiale. Il poensait qu’il y avait trop de gens sur Terre. Dans un sens j’étais d’accord avec lui mais je ne me sentais pas autorisé à dire qui devait mourir et qui devait survivre. Il m’a dit qu’ils envisageaient de réduire la population mondiale de moitié (…). Il m’a dit qu’ils envisageainte les façon d’y parvenir. Il a évoqué les problèmes entre les Palestiniens et les Israéliens. Il m’a même dit qu’ils avaient envisagé la possibilité d’installer Israël en Arizona. On aurait pris les gens vivant en Israël et on leur aurait offert des millions de dollars pour qu’ils isntalle Israël en Arizona.
- Incroyable ! ….“<
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my favorite video
Trump flames Bush
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BLITZER: The war is hovering over politics right now, as it should. This is the dominant issue, at least right now of our time. Give us your assessment. Is there a way out?
TRUMP: The war is total disaster. It’s a catastrophe, nothing less. It is such a shame that this took place. In fact, I gained a lot of respect for our current president’s father by the fact that he had the sense not to go in to Iraq. He won the war and then said let’s not go the rest of the way and he turned out to be right.
And Saddam Hussein, whether they like him or didn’t like him, he hated terrorists. He’d shoot and kill terrorists. When terrorists came in to his country, which he did control and he did dominate, he would kill terrorists. Now it’s a breeding ground for terrorists. So, look, the war is a total catastrophe…
BLITZER: Who do you blame?
TRUMP: … and they have a civil war going on…
BLITZER: Who do you blame?
TRUMP: Well there’s only one person you can blame and that’s our current president. I mean obviously Rumsfeld was a disaster and other people that are giving him advice have been a disaster, and Condoleezza Rice, who’s a lovely woman, but she never makes a deal. She doesn’t make deals. She waves. She gets off the plane. She waves. She sits down with some dictator 45-degree angle. They do the camera shot. She waves again. She gets back on the plane. She waves. No deal ever happens, so I mean…
BLITZER: You got to close a deal at some point?
TRUMP: You got to make deals. The world is dying to make deals and we don’t have the right people doing it.
BLITZER: The vice president, Dick Cheney.
TRUMP: Well he’s obviously a very hawkish guy on the war. He said the war was going fantastically just a few months ago, and you know, it’s just very sad. I don’t know if they’re bad people. I don’t know what’s going on. I just know that they got us in to a mess, the likes of which this country has probably never seen.
It’s one of the great catastrophes of all time and perhaps even worse, the rest of the world hates us. You go throughout Europe, I travel, I do deals all over the world. The Europeans hate us. You go to Germany. You go to England, you go to places that, you know, we didn’t have problems with. They all hate the Americans because of what’s happened.
We had a chance after September 11th to be the most — for the first time ever, to be the most popular nation on earth. And we blew it. Everybody, for the first time people felt sympathy. I’m not saying it’s a great thing to have sympathy in terms of yourself, but for the first time they felt a sympathy and love for this country because of what happened. And we blew it.
BLITZER: How does the United States get out of this situation? Is there a way … TRUMP: You know how they get out? They get out. That’s how they get out. Declare victory and leave, because I’ll tell you, this country is just going to get further bogged down. They’re in a civil war over there, Wolf. There’s nothing that we’re going to be able to do with a civil war. They are in a major civil war.
And it’s going to go to Iran, and it’s going to go to other countries. They are in the midst of a major civil war. And there’s nothing — by the way, we’re keeping the lid on a little bit but date we leave anyway it’s all going to blow up. And Saddam Hussein will be a nice person compared to the man and it will be a man, it will not a woman, that we understand. People say, oh, gee, you didn’t give a woman a chance. It will be a man.
Compared to the person that takes over for Saddam Hussein, he will be considered a nice person. This guy will be the meanest, the worst guy and he’ll have one thing, one thing, he will hate America, and he’ll use that to flame. So, I mean, this is a total catastrophe and you might as well get out now, because you just are wasting time.
BLITZER: What …
TRUMP: And lives. You know, nobody talks about the soldiers that are coming back with no arms and no legs. And I saw at Mara Lago on Mondays, I make Mara Lago, my club that you know about.
BLITZER: In Palm Beach …
TRUMP: I make that — twice now, on a Monday I let returning Iraqi injured soldiers come to the premises. The most beautiful people I’ve ever seen. But they’re missing arms and legs, they’re with their wives, sometimes they’re with their girlfriends.
And the tears are coming down the faces of these people. I mean, thousands and maybe hundreds of thousands, and the Iraqis that have been just maimed and killed.
This war is a horrible thing. Now, President Bush says he’s religious. And yet 400,000 people, the way I count it, have died, and probably millions have been badly maimed and injured.
What’s going on? What’s going on? And the day we pull out it’s going to explode. We’re keeping the lid on a little bit. It’s still a catastrophe, but the day we pull out, because they’re in a civil war. Whether we want to admit it or not, they’re in a civil war.
BLITZER: What do you think of some of these scandals that are unfolding in Washington right now? As we speak the attorney general is under fire. Alberto Gonzales. What do you make of this as an executive trying to watch an administration?
TRUMP: Look, everything in Washington has been a lie. Weapons of mass destruction. It was a total lie. It was a way of attacking Iraq, which he thought was going to be easy and it turned out to be the exact opposite of easy. He reads 60 books a year. He read as book a week. That’s — did you think that’s — do you think the president reads a book week? I don’t think so.
He doesn’t watch television. Now, one thing I know is when I’m on television I watch. Or I try, because you do. Your own ego says, let’s watch. Let’s see. Whether it’s good or bad, you want to watch. He doesn’t watch television.
So he’s on television being interviewed by you or something else, hesdoesn’t watch. Does anybody really believe that? Now they are doing this whole scandal with the U.S. attorneys. Now they’re finding e-mails. And it’s proven to be a lie. Everything’s a lie. It’s all a big lie.
BLITZER: So what’s going to happen?
TRUMP: Well, it depends. If the Democrats get their act together they’re going to have is a big victory in a couple of years, and it’s going to be interesting to see what happens with this whole thing with the attorney general. It’s a very sad situation.
BLITZER: What’s next for Donald Trump?
TRUMP: Well, I just want to keep doing what I’m doing. I’m having a great time, building all over the world, I’m having a really great time and it’s been a lot of fun, and it’s always fun to be interviewed by you.
BLITZER: Thanks for doing it.
TRUMP: Thank you. Thank you, Wolf.
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A personal note : Trump is a nice and fun guy but it’s appalling how little he knows about politics and geostrategy. Apparently he has no clue about the CFR and the shadow goverment, about the globalists’ agenda or even about the oil and military industries. Yet he wields so much business power? Strange but not uncommon.
