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“Another part of the game that some hardcore fans missed was having a light radius follow the player’s character. Because some of the areas of past “Diablo” games were so dark, the player had a circle of light following them around to help them navigate the depths of dungeons. [Lead “Diablo III” designer Jay] Wilson said the team tried to make use of the light radius, but it just didn’t work with a 3D engine. “It looked really bad,” he admitted. “If you took an environment and you basically lit the whole thing up with just a flashlight, it works way better in a 2D game… we’ve really found that you needed other light sources to be able to make the game look good.” However, that doesn’t mean the beloved light radius won’t show up in “Diablo III.” “Not in all dungeons, but there might be in some,” he revealed. “I think people really remembered it in like one or two places where it was prevalent in ‘Diablo II,’ but forget that it almost didn’t exist in the other 90 percent of the game. But if we can find one dungeon where it’s really good to use it, and we can create a lot of gameplay out of it and make it look cool, then yeah, we’ll do it. And it’s not like within the team there’s a lack of desire to do that, it’s just that we don’t want to do it if it’s not going to play well or it doesn’t look good.””

This above is Lead_“Diablo III”_Designer_Jay_Wilson speaking.

He hasnt played diablo 1 nor 2, or else he would know that there is a light radius in a dark environment ~80% of the time in diablo games, not “in like one or two places”.

As “Abaddon” commented,

“The Original Blizzard North team that created Diablo 1 & 2 are Totally Unrelated to this.
Read twice before saying “Blizzard never gave us reason to doubt”
That’s okay,It’s just that Blizzard Isn’t Blizzard anymore.
As for my entitled opinion,this is going to Suck Big Time.
If you think otherwise,let me be,do no talk to me, buy it and play it,you soulless conformist critter.”

Read it all here

turlute gholein, salut sir lemmy !

10 August, 2008 - Posted by quintaldo | articles, news | , | 21 Comments

21 Comments »

  1. I agree I am a major fan of Diablo 1 and 2…I grew up deep in the dungeons farming/dueling with my friends.

    Diablo 3 looks to much like world of warcraft which once Burning Crusade came out they started down hill….with WOTLK its so lame and boring its basically a Pay 2 Play version of Flyff now.

    The idiots at Blizzard should have gotten a new team instead of the idiot WoW team which should be dragged to the street and beaten for the rainbow atmosphere and WoW inspired bad guys.
    I have no problems with making the game better but you gotta stick to the basics or else you end up like GTA4 which has veered away from what made it great in my opinion.

    Fact is Diablo is not about bunnies and rainbows its about the lord of evil and your quest to beat it. Last I checked evil didn’t play in the sunshine with butterflies (I swear to god they added them)

    Lets not forget the rumors that they didn’t even bother to stick to the original story line.

    I am so sad over D3 I been wanting it for years now and now that they make it I wish they never had.

    Comment by Twist | 10 January, 2009 | Reply

  2. hehe you crack me up.
    Don’t be sad !
    Yes they’re screwing up diablo 3, but overall what does it really mean? That noone will ever be able to make the real diablo 3. Therefore Diablo 2 is immortal. It won’t ever be beaten except by another franchise in the future. The wow-fuckers have turned diablo 2 into an immortal classic.
    All this sorry mess means that blizzard was and still is unable to make diablo 3, 8 years after the release of diablo 2. They lost their crew and they cant build it again !
    Other companies will make better Action-RPG games sooner or later and diablo 1&2 can rest peacefully in all their glory. They won’t ever be improved upon !
    Since the announcement of this crappy diablo 3, many players have come back to playing diablo 2. And D2 looks so shiny and beautiful now that we have the hardware to turn its graphic options to the max. Plus it got a spiritual glow from the death of the hope of a decent D3.
    D3 is dead, long live D2 !
    (and D1 which is better than D2 in many surprising aspects like the fear factor and the
    music)

    Comment by quintaldo | 10 January, 2009 | Reply

  3. I think D3 is going to suck ass…lol
    I have wayy too many good memories and fun w/ D2,I seen the trailer 4 D3,looks more like Wow…

    Comment by D2 fan | 21 March, 2009 | Reply

  4. Ah finally some guys with their senses still together. DIII sucks bigtime and as a conclusion DI&II will be immortal is a realy nice way to look at it and helps me block out the disappointment about DIII, ty for that!

    Comment by cbob | 6 April, 2009 | Reply

  5. you’re very much welcome)
    i’ve come to this conclusion when i reinstalled D2 last fall when the hype about D3 was all over the gaming media.
    D2 looks so much better with high graphic options and it is so well made and polished, it is an immortal classic that we will still be playing 10 years from now.
    Today’s Blizzard is unable to spawn a sequel to diablo 1&2 and that’s why it took blizzard so long to even try it. The developpers of diablo have long left Blizzard. To them the glory.

    Comment by quintaldo | 8 April, 2009 | Reply

  6. you kids are all niggers this game is going to be awesome, you’re just all emo cause you can’t run around with a perfect griefz gayass runeword to slay everyone with

    fucking jews

    Comment by Zohaibfuckedurmomma | 23 July, 2009 | Reply

  7. lol
    thank you for your comment

    Comment by quintaldo | 24 July, 2009 | Reply

  8. Zohaib wherever you are, I feel sorry for you. May your rotten brain Rest In Peace.
    I find the arguments on this page really shallow, since only a tiny part of the game has been revealed so far, since the Diablo Team is pretty much independant from the WoW guys, since some of the old Diablo team is still there, and since the rest of the old team who left Blizzard have completely failed in their attempts at making a new game (flagship). Most of them by the way have shown deep respect towards the current team and their work on Diablo 3 so far.
    Diablo 2 is an awesome game, still it is flawed in so many ways and Blizzard is putting hard work into making a better game. As for the atmosphere lacking the original diablo feeling, they said that nothing much has been unveiled until now, and the last videos seem to prove them right.

    Comment by Tyr | 2 August, 2009 | Reply

  9. @Tyr

    Your not speaking truth…the original Diablo team is on Guild Wars no ORIGINAL D1/D2 designers are on this game and over 2/3 of the current staff worked on BOTH WoW and Burning Crusade expansion.

    Also I would hardly call Guild Wars a total failure it made its share of cash and new xpacs have been coming out for it. I hear another is on the way.

    We can only hope Blizzard makes the right call and listens to the fans of the game. I so far see a very disappointing game. They also locked the offical forums since 90% were complaints. This shows were the gaming population stands.

    Comment by Twist | 7 August, 2009 | Reply

  10. You are gay.

    Comment by Mitch | 11 August, 2009 | Reply

  11. hehe thx Tyr, I didn’t know all these details.
    and they locked the forums, eh?
    hehehe other game companies have done that, for disastrous results.
    thank you for replying better than I would have:)

    Comment by quintaldo | 15 August, 2009 | Reply

  12. Look at the facts, there is not going to be a attribute point or a skill point distribution system. Character builds are a thing of the past. No more awesome skill synergy trees. No more awesome item sets that work for one build but not another. This game is going to most probably be one in which everyone is just a clone of someone else. I hope that they atleast have thousands of super rare items to try and make yourself look unique…

    Comment by D3WILLsuck | 28 August, 2009 | Reply

  13. Also, in a interview at blizzcon with G4 one of the staff of the D3 team said that they realized that D2 “was hard to pick up for casual gamers.” and that now “if you want to melee as a wizard you can.” They are dumbing down D3 for button smashing noobs. I am a hardcore gamer and I liked the amount of effort you had to put into D2 to become the best. -.-

    Comment by D3WILLsuck2 | 28 August, 2009 | Reply

    • hehe of course they are dumbing it down, they are WoWing it down !
      these are the guys who are responsible for the wow super-dumbness !
      they dont know any better.
      they made billions selling their shitgame to 11 million subscribers, why on earth would they doubt their game-developers skills?
      D2 fans should wake up…
      I’m sure D3 will be “fun” and well made, but I guess it will be empty as hell (just like wow, or worse).
      Here comes the time of carebear-hell… fluffy, cute, inhumanely easy, senseless, skill-less, depthless.
      Games for retards.

      Comment by quintaldo | 28 August, 2009 | Reply

  14. i think diablo 3 sucks becuse the colors are to light and looks like wow.And the monester that they made looks so undagerous. a diablo game should feture dark halls and lots of skeleton. they should make a diablo 2 world builder so we that hate diablo 3 can contiune with the storie

    Comment by editoorr!! | 16 September, 2009 | Reply

  15. yeah:) an editor would be fun, with modding tools.
    but it’s not in blizzard’s philosophy.

    BTW they hardly deserve the blizzard name in my view, they’re wow-blizz not diablo-blizz.

    Comment by quintaldo | 20 September, 2009 | Reply

  16. btw jay wilson said that its prevalent in 1 or 2 spots not only in 1 or 2 places and second wats wrong with wow? its one of the most selling games ever

    Comment by joe | 5 November, 2009 | Reply

  17. Give them a chance for god’s sake. The world designer is one of the guys behind Fallout and the Lead Designer is one the people behind Company of Heroes. Doesn’t sound like the type of designers who are afraid of making a dark and gritty game.

    Comment by klurg | 17 November, 2009 | Reply

  18. I want to give Diablo III a chance, I really do, but I can’t pretend I’m not disappointed. The artistic direction is awful… Adding a little color into the Diablo world would be great but we don’t need rainbows, smiling statues and over-sized moss covered trees with butterflies and pastel flowers.

    Diablo is all about a war against Satan, it’s gorey and gritty and supposed to be drab and dark. You’re supposed to wander through dark labyrinths with only the occasional pool of candle light and everything beyond your light radius obscured in shadows.

    Diablo I and II had pits of dismembered bodies, blood splattered across dungeon floors, crucified corpses littering the landscape, rivers of fire with giant acid spitting beetles and hideous demons rushing at you from around dark corners. Does anyone remember King Leoric’s son from D1? The disemboweled kid lying atop an altar deep in a dungeon? That’s the world of Diablo… Brutal, depressing and horrific. You ARE fighting demon hell-spawn for god’s sake! It’s not some colorful, kid friendly game and that’s what we all love about it.

    After all these years of waiting for Diablo III, I can’t help but be disappointed that this is the best they could do and it is a big deal to those of us who have been fans of the games since the beginning. I’m still going to try D3 and hope the game play is enough, but I’m not optimistic.

    Comment by Amanda | 22 November, 2009 | Reply

    • hehe right on bro:)
      Err… or sis;)

      Comment by quintaldo | 24 November, 2009 | Reply

  19. I’m playing hellgate london, i’ve been offline for 3 weeks and that’s all I had to play besides the sims, fallout and such.
    Hellgate is the real successor to diablo 2 , it is failed alright but it bears the same strong orientation towards the occult.
    That’s what the Diablo culture is about : satanism. When diablo was released it was the most occult game ever released in the mainstream.
    I’m not a fan of satanism by the way but i’m a student of it from the outside, from an anti-satanist perspective.
    Hellgate implemented many gameplay features that are improvements on the diablo games. Granted it failed because it did have many flaws, but the devs tried on the right direction, they were on the right track. They are the makers of diablo and it showed.
    On the other hand, the makers of diablo 3 are the makers of WoW and it shows. They are not the makers of diablo and it screams.
    And guess what, Diablo and WoW are not compatible.

    Take a major dev choice for diablo 3 : keeping the isometric view. Major failure. The right move is what the hellgate devs did : going full subjective vision and even FPS (first person shooter).

    Diablo opened new ground, it created the action-rpg genre.
    Hellgate tried in the FPS-RPG direction and that’s the right way to do it.

    The graphics issue with diablo 3 (that it looks like a carebears cartoon more than like diablo) is a symptom of a larger disease, it is a blatant piece of evidence that something is terribly amiss with the making of diablo 3.

    I’m sure it will be a fun game… for the customer base of WoW.

    To the one who said “what do you have against wow? it is a major seller” I might reply with any piece of major-selling game or art that sucks.

    12 million cutomers arent evidence the game is good, just that it suckered 12 million people into subscribing and managed to keep them subscribed.
    It is evidence that it is addictive, nothing more.

    What I and others lament about WoW is that since WoW was a success no decent MMORPGs have emerged.
    WoW has litterally eaten the market up to the point that its challengers imitate it, turning the whole MMO market into a huge pile of wow-shit.

    And now that wow-shit is spreading to diablo.
    Call me concerned.

    But dont worry. True diablo fans recognize this steaming pile for what it is, and rejoice that the Blizzard WoW-makers are turning Diablo TWO into an immortal classic.

    As long as we had hope there could be a dignified Diablo 3, Diablo 2 was considered perfectible. Now we know it isn’t.
    They made D2 complete.

    Clue to WoW lovers : a good game is hard and demanding. You can hardly know because these games arent made anymore. Now is the time of the “casual gamers” market. Leave us old gamers lament about the times you dont have a clue about. Or try playing Donkey Kong. Watch A Fistful of Quarters to have an idea about what gaming used to be.

    Comment by quintaldo | 24 November, 2009 | Reply


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